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17Aug/129

Eagleworld Redo Updates/Ideas

Hey, everyone!

LONG POST WARNING: Sorry,  folks.  Got a lot to say, and want to keep everyone in the loop.  If you just want to get started testing to get ideas going, you can skip the "New Server Ideas" section, really.  It's just my rough ideas for the future.

So I listened to the ideas I got so far, and I'm glad I did so...I was directed to look at Tekkit by Runninghobo and EG_SpaceNinja, and so far I'm completely blown away.  I had no idea about this mod conglomeration, and I think it's a great direction to go.  Is it any wonder why I love my mods and admins? (If you're the idiot looking for a "no homo" after that, grow up...lol)

Testing out Tekkit

So, I've set up a temporary Tekkit server so I try out mods and test out configurations.  The server is located at delorean.eagleworld.net:25566.  It runs on an older version of minecraft (1.2.3 I think), but it uses its own launcher chock-full of goodies (mini maps, the successor to Too Many Items, etc.).  If you wanted to run the latest version of vanilla Minecraft, it can run side-by-side with Tekkit with absolutely NO conflict.  This will allow people to test out their new stuff and not screw around with their server experience!

The test server is currently whitelisted, but if you wish to join and test, just ask!  You can ask me pretty much anywhere: a comment on the blog, Twitter, Facebook, e-mail, text message, any way you can get ahold of me.  If you were a former member of the server, and you're still reading this blog, that's pretty much all I need.  I will whitelist requests as I get them and let people play around.  To do so, however, you need the Technic Launcher, which you can get at http://www.technicpack.net/.  Just like Minecraft, it works on Windows, Mac, or Linux, and lets you play Minecraft in a whole new bunch of ways.  Just make sure to select "Tekkit" on the dropdown on the left before you put in your Minecraft credentials.

New Server Ideas

So, continuing on with all of the changes I'm making to Eagleworld, let's talk about the things I want to keep the same:

  • Hourly map backups for total rollback capabilities (my scripts still work fine).
  • Essentials Plugin for basic protections from creepers, and griefing
  • Some Big Brother/HawkEye - like plugin for admins/mods to use to protect against griefing
  • Some map plugin - maps are cool.
  • Some method to get all the items you want, whether it is by the economy or some other plugin

The good news is that Tekkit actually has built in ways to get all the stuff you want, but doesn't use an economy for it.  I'm debating putting the economy back in, but if I do, I might just end up using the built-in economy that Essentials provides (BOSEconomy), and using a chest-based shop, rather than a command-based one.

So what will be different?

  • Towny is most likely going away - I don't believe it's necessary anymore, save for in-town creature protections.  I'll try to find some other way to handle that that doesn't require such bloat.
  • Besides Tekkit, Essentials, and server protections, mods will be kept to a minimum to make upgrades easier.  That doesn't mean I don't want suggestions, though!  If I feel a plugin really will add to the server, I will most definitely add it.  But I am definitely going for server longevity here and ease of upgrade.

So what will the rules be like?

  • Server will still be admin-approval only.  I believe quality of users as opposed to quantity will help.  We will advertise, but requirements for joining will be high as always.
  • No-tolerance griefing will still be in effect.  Rather than have all these regulations and shit, one time fuck-up and you go.  Keeps everyone in line and nobody has to worry about their stuff.
  • Rules will be a lot simpler - I created a rule pretty much every time something bad happened, and it added up.  We'll make it simpler.
  • Ranks will still be around to give everyone a sense of accomplishment as they move forward on the server, but I will try to make it so everyone pretty much can do what they want, regardless of rank.  Thankfully, a lot of the stuff everyone want to do (like flying) can be done in Tekkit; it just requires some effort to do.  For example, you can fly now with Jet Packs...which is way more fun to me than using Creative Mode, anyway!
  • Other than that, the server will be pretty much free to do whatever, as long as it doesn't hurt someone else or isn't using common sense.  For example, building your shit next to someone else (unless they are okay with it) is being a dick, and not using common sense.  But rather than memorizing rules and all that, we'll take things case-by-case.

So what happens to towns?

  • Still build 'em if you want...or build by yourself.  Whatever.  No more rules and crap on that.  It made things very un-fun.
  • If you want to build a town, just space it away a little bit from other towns.  Leave room for expansion.  Common sense.
  • Just make sure you move away from Capitol a bit before you start.  I'm planning on building a lot there (for everyone on the server), so I'd like to have some space to grow.

Speaking of Capitol, I'm planning on letting everyone build something there...just let me have a say in what or where.  I want to plan on having districts again (so all the power plants and industry is in one place, all the high-rise towers in another, and the small homes in yet another, all with the spawn and government buildings in the center).  I want to have the first place everyone sees on the server to be large, organized, and impressive.

If I do it right this time, we will have a great spawn point, as less time will be spent screwing around with the server.  But, I want to make it fun and enjoyable for all...without excessive rules and all that.  I'm setting my goals lower in terms of player count.  I'd rather have 10 dedicated players that all fun to be around and enjoy themselves than try to get 50 players, half of whom rarely play and some of which can't be trusted.

More Ideas

I still want more ideas from you guys.  If you need to join the server and play around with Tekkit to get some, just ask!  Just remember the test server is in fact a test server...it will definitely go away.  Do with it what you want...but again, just be nice to others.  I'll keep everyone posted on how far I get with the build and all that.  Cheers!

Posted by EagleRock

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  1. i actually like the idea of getting rid of towny and towns having to setup protection against mobs. as long as creeper damage isn’t a factor. might make for some creative solutions.

    I’d like to volunteer for testing too, but I need to see if I have that version saved.

    • I am definitely nerfing creepers, that’s for sure…

      I’m adding you to the whitelist. You don’t need to have anything saved to join the Tekkit server…just go to http://www.technicpack.net and the “Technic Pack Installer” will do the rest. Just make sure to select “Tekkit” in the drop-down on the left side of the launcher before you log in.

      • thanks. this looks awesome so far (was in single mode). there are a LOT of custom things in here. almost too much. lasers, jet packs, stuff i have no idea what it does. lots of new toys to play with.

  2. im happy to hear that everything is going to get simpler, i havent played in a while and id like to see whats new. i got that whole “ive grown accustomed to playing X way so now that thats not available i find it hard to play.” hope everything gets running and up to date soon.

    • Well, I’m going to work on getting Essentials and other grief protections going soon, as well as whip up some quick permissions. I had a good time testing out Tekkit, and I am very happy with the selection of plugins. Stay tuned!

      I don’t know whether you were looking for a whitelist addition, but I added you anyway.

  3. “or build by yourself”

    I love you.

    But.. I can haz whitelist?

    • Hehe…the rules were getting stupid at the end. Here I am trying to make my life easier with the rules, but all it did was make it harder to maintain, and less fun to play.

      I just whitelisted you. Have fun!

  4. I was just thinking the other day how much I’d like to start playing Minecraft again. I try to still check the blog from time to time so I was super excited to see this update! I’d definitely be down for testing this Technic server!


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